To install an older Windows operating system on a computer running Windows Vista, use the following procedure. If not there, then it's on your Vista DVD in boot folder. Just curious, how would XP see Vista when you try to install it? Will it recognize it and give you the option of installing on a drive other than C? You can use a third party program like EasyBCD or VistaBootPro, but apparently, behind the screens, both programs run this command to restore the bootloader.
Go to your EasyBCD installation folder and you'll find bootsect. I used EasyBCD successfully. On the other hand, I get stuck right from the start, when I try to do the same thing on a Dell Inspiron In the Dell Bios, I found no equivalent option. How did you create your partition beforehand? Did you use Vista? If so, partitions created by Vista are no longer compatible with Windows XP. See this: Vista's New Partitioning Rules. It's best to create you partition with a third party utility.
However, I don't understand why you can't install on unallocated space. I used Acronis Disk Director to create the partition. This was done under Vista. Maybe I should use the Acronis Boot Loader and create the partition from this "neutral" environment.
There is another utility on that is available on the recovery console called bootrec that has options to fix the mbr and other things. Just wanted to add that if you only have 64bit vista dvd, you will only have the 64bit version of bootsect,exe so if a 32bit system is installed, you need to get the 32bit to be able to follow this guide. I'm sure if you search, you will be able to find how to do that. Vista can create a partition using disk management console.
Either it is not a bug and the devs there will figure out the exact problem, or it is a bug and it gets fixed, both for you and for everyone else having the same problem as you. I actually used his grub2 tutorial when updating my tutorial for Ubuntu 9.
I have thanked him very much on IRC for it though ; For anyone running Wubi it's all slightly different Is the current proposed solution. Hmm, what does wubi have to do with grub2? I thought that it uses the windows bootloader to boot, everything else is self-contained? I've not read every post so excuse me if I'm just repeating something. Given the number of grub2 failures and the number of those who lack a restore disc or the ability to burn one I decided to give ms-sys another look.
Well, forget ms-sys! Hello mbr! Boot your Ubuntu Live CD and run "sudo fdisk -l" just to determine which drive you want the mbr on. I actually tried that with XP and it worked fine. I may be able to try that with Win7 in the next couple of days. I burned it from iso image named "Ubuntu Desktop 9. I know the legacy one worked, and in the interim I'd like to use that, if I can find out how to :D I've googled and found heaps on upgrading, but not downgrading.
Ignore that. The legacy version is back on and works a treat. I did a little happy dance, but I am still perplexed. Well, if sudo grub actually works, it means you are using a version of ubuntu less than 9.
I have read in my recent copious research of installations that did not completely overwrite the legacy version, and the situation you describe above occurring. I'm sorry, I don't remember exactly where. I would suggest giving Google a flogging for similar situations and hopefully the remedy. Thanks for that von Stalhein : All I can guess is that perhaps you upgraded from 9.
I'm having a similar problem to berserkpi. I followed the steps for Ubuntu 9. For some reason, occasionally when I reboot from Windows say if I want to go into Linux , the Grub boot loader seems to be corrupting and it keeps power cycling after trying to load Grub.
Last time I fixed it by simply formatting my Linux partition and reinstalling Ubuntu, but I'd rather keep the installation if I can this time. Here's my computer setup: I have three operating systems that were installed in the following order: Windows XP Windows Vista Ubuntu 9. Should there be a complete list of all partitions? Also, it may be worth a shot trying the instructions for 9.
It's been a long day. I would have tried this, but after I removed the '6' from the command, it finally worked. I'm still not sure what was happening on the previous attempt I'm sure I was using the correct syntax and partition before , but for now it is fixed. Hopefully the boot loader doesn't corrupt again, but I'm betting it will. Thanks for the help.
Ok, I hope it stays working for you! Your message to dohzer was exactly the mistake I was making. Thanks so much. Hello, I had 2 partitions with 2 XP. I selected the 1st partition, i formatted it, and i installed Ubuntu 9. In the beggining XP couldnt boot, but at least i could browse the folders from Linux. Now in the Disk Utility its written Unrecognised, Unkown or unused. Volume is corrupt. You should run chkdsk. Fortunately, I found this post and was able to restore the grub bootloader by following your excellent instructions saved me hours of frustration.
I'm not sure if this is the right place to ask this question, but as you are obviously well versed in this area Many thanks in advance. Simply run through the instructions for installing the Ubuntu bootloader for the version of Ubuntu you installed, then you should be able to boot into XP and ubuntu. Ok, so you want to delete the XP partition and switch to Ubuntu? Ok, so if the XP partition is corrupted, you simply reinstall XP onto the corrupted partition, formating during the installation process, before booting into the ubuntu cd and fixing the bootloader as per the original post.
Also, I am not entirely sure I see the problem. Also, can you please restate exactly what the problem is? Hello again Telsemgeest, Many thanks for your speedy and helpful reply. The ubuntuforums. According to G-Parted, sda1 and sdb5 are both boot. I couldn't understand what sda5 referred to in your formula. Should it have been sdb5 i. Anyway, I tried sda5, sdb5, sdb1, sda1, followed each time by sudo update-grub. Incidentally,"sdx" was always sdb.
If you have any other ideas they'd be more than welcome. Thanks again, Kaspin. However, it can still be done and this is how: First you need to find out what your drives are called. If i do so can GRUB2 automatically detect my windows xp.
I use ubuntu 9. In GRUB2 how can it happen? Yes it is. If it is not already in the boot menu, running sudo update-grub should pick it up and add it to your list. I think it is corrupting after Windows has been in use for a long time without rebooting.
I haven't used Ubuntu on my laptop in a week or two, and have had Windows continually running during that time, hibernating between use. Half an hour ago I rebooted so I could boot into Ubuntu, and Grub wasn't loading again. Can anyone recommend what I should do next? I don't want to have to waste time booting Ubuntu from CD to repair the bootloader each time it corrupts. I got over it, and I hope to get back to it at some stage :. All I can suggest is that you start from scratch, installing XP first onto a clean hard drive, then Ubuntu.
Other than that I cannot see where the problem is coming from, so I can't fix it. I got over it, and I hope to get back to it at some stage : This is also a very good suggestion, and should probably be tried before mine ;. Hello I'm new to Ubuntu and i'm having the same problem. I already tried to follow the steps from the guide. Tried to type the codes but it comes up with unknown command.
Whn i tried to boot the windows xp cd, it did load but it said that there were no files on the disk to reinstall window. Does anyone have any other suggestions i would really appreciated. Hi, I need a bit more info on your configuration. Which version of ubuntu do you have installed, which other operating systems, which order they were installed in, etc.
Well i installed the 9. Ok, please boot into the Ubuntu 9. Hello, Nice tutorial you mentioned here. I really want to Vista Boot loader for last few days. But, Now i am using windows 7 so, did you any suggestion for windows 7?
Merry Christmas!!! Fixing the Windows 7 bootloader is exactly the same as the one for Vista, just using the windows 7 dvd instead of vista ; Other than that, I am glad you like the tutorial, and a merry Christmas to you too :. After you had done that I would have taken the info in the fdisk output, and used it to change the commands in the first post to work with your computer. If you read the instructions carefully, I wouldnt have to, but I think this way is easier. I cannot help a person who does not want to be helped.
So first of all, please make sure you have the Ubuntu 9. Boot from it, open a terminal and type sudo fdisk -l Open firefox, log into the forums and paste the output from the previous command into this thread.
I saved this thread in my desktop as i find this tutorial is useful. I am very happy to hear that :. Oh yeah, I've never gotten around to thanking you either. I have sent lot's of people to this thread over the last couple of months!!
Well done :popcorn: Phill. Hello, I am very new to the cammand line and anything other than synaptic package manager. I am however having similar issues as the person above. This may take a long rime. The issue I am having is when I type I get the response any ideas?
Please follow the instructions for Ubuntu 9. Stick with it, it's worth the effort. Think of it as a container for logical partitions. You have sda1 unknown which may be a recovery partition, then sda2, which is NTFS and most likely windows. Next you need to make logical partitions within the extended partition. The first logical partition will be sda5. However, if you already have more partitions sda5, sda6, etc then don't do anything further with this disk.
If you have a bad partition table you don't want to write anything more to the disk until you have the partition table fixed. Tell us what your situation is and we can help you. It might be helpful to start your own thread as this looks more than a partitioning problem rather than a boot problem unless you had other partitions that were working until you tried to add Linux.
At least give us a bit more information about what you are trying to accomplish. I know this will seem quite idiotic: I deleted the partition on which Ubuntu was installed DELETED not formated, it's just empty space that can't be used until I create a new partition or extend an existing one and went to the bathroom.
When I went back into my room the computer was restarted by my brother and instead of the windows boot menu there was the Grub 2 with the message "no such partition" and the grub rescue started I know other people had this error too. The "sudo" command is unknown to the grub so basically I can't do anything. Does anyone have a solution for this? Oh and I almost forgot the Ubuntu version is 9. I will be away for a few days so, if you have any problems you will probably get an answer faster if you create your own thread.
OK, I followed the steps on the first three pages. I booted on the CD, did an alt-ctl-F1 to get to terminal mode. I rebooted with the disk removed and it came up in Windoz again. When running on the CD can changes be made and saved?
Or are they just temporary? I thought the grub loader had to be on the first drive which would be sda1, right? Still stumped. Thanks Gary :. Thanks Gary : Hi Gary : Ok, simply running sudo fdisk -l will only show you which drives are which. You can go through the instructions for installing the ubuntu 9. Hello there, I just wanted to say thank you for the excellent tut, just saved me another reinstall.
Hello again Talsemgeest, Firstly, best wishes for a very happy new year I guess it's an issue with Windows, which only likes being booted from a fixed disk, so I've given up trying, at least for the time being. My problem now is sluggish boot times. Also, on the larger machine the boot possibilities are Ubuntu 2. But then it wouldn't have been using Grub2 presumably. Any ideas you may have to speed things up would be most welcome.
Kaspin Hmm, I had a similar problem with grub taking a while to load when it was installed to a drive other than the one that ubuntu was installed to. Do you have that setup? I have done as you told below, it gives error and say bad idea after the third command grub root dicrectory. I then installed Ubuntu 8. I also tried reinstalling Ubuntu 9. Having done this, the boot time for Ubuntu 9. As you will have gathered I'm not very computer literate, so unless there's something specific that I can search for on my system which might point to where the problem is, I'll carry on with the persistent boot mode, and hope that changes might be made to Grub2 in due course which would speed up the boot time.
One final question - is it easy to replace Grub2 in Ubuntu 9. If it is, I might try that as an interim solution Many thanks again, kaspin. Many thanks again, kaspin Since the delay seems to be in the grub rather than in the normal boot process, I can't think of any settings that would speed it up. As for replacing grub 2 with 1, I am sure it is possible, but I can't find any guides that walk you through it.
All I can suggest is that you start a new thread with your problem, hopefully someone has another idea. Sorry I couldnt be of more help. What a great tutorial! Thanks a lot! It was really helpful. Excellent, I am very happy it has helped you out. Thanks again, talsemgeest. I've found another forum apparently devoted to a bug causing slow boot times in Grub2. So I'll get out of your hair, and start bugging them!
Will report back if I find a solution that works I saw somewhere that a fix was due to be issued on 18th January All the best, kaspin. All the best, kaspin Haha ok, I hope it works out for you :. Hi again talsemgeest, Good news - I've reduced the boot time from 4 minutes 30 seconds to about 1 minute 45 seconds.
That did it! I expected to save more time if I put the boot on the SSD and altered the boot order accordingly, but it went up to nearly 4 minutes! Anyway, I can live with the 1 minute 45 seconds with the SDHC card - but still hope to reduce it to around a minute one day.
Best wishes, kaspin. Best wishes, kaspin Excellent, glad to hear it and I wish you the best of luck! I have a query that to get back my grub menu back after reinstalling windows first i have to put Ubuntu live CD in it then do these steps you have mentioned???? Thanks drs :. I found myself in a big jiffy. It was So i used my iPod and found this page, emailed it to myself and got on my old computer, hoping to create the recovery disk.
I thought i was doomed. Windows 7 RC! Thank you so much for this tutorial. And this is also for anyone who doesn't feel like burning yet another disk, just try and find something you have laying around first. I used this guide today after I re-installed my Win 7 OS. I am currently running Mint8 x64 with grub2. After running the commands in the livecd, grub came up fine.
Hi I installed Xp and Ubuntu. I had grub loader to select one of these at boot time. Now I installed Windows 7 without removing windows xp or ubuntu. My grub is now wipped off. Will this method still work for me or if i install grub it will wipe my window 7's bootloader.
I want grub loader to either point to this three os or to ubuntu and bootloader of windows 7 from which i can load either xp or 7. Also tell me if i remove xp then how can i make my grub, point to ubuntu and windows 7. I mean remove my window 7 bootloader which have a link to xp. Yes, simply run through the instructions for reinstalling the ubuntu bootloader, start up into ubuntu and run sudo update-grub. If you choose to remove XP, just delete the XP partition, boot into Ubuntu and run sudo update-grub again.
The menu will now only show Ubuntu and 7. Hope this helps :. I tried to load grub 2 in Ubuntu 9. Hmm, I have never seen this error before. It seems that most people are getting this message when they try to install grub onto a flash drive. But if you are correct in saying that it is the right drive, I can't think of a lot you can do, since the space is simply missing.
It may end up that you need to reinstall both windows and ubuntu to recreate the MBR at the start of the hard drive. No dontttttttttttttttttt say that i only reinstalled xp on seeing your toutorial that i can get back my grub -o. On the live cd, open up a terminal and run sudo fdisk -l, select the output, open firefox and navigate to the ubuntu forums, and middle click into the reply box for this thread.
Only other thing I can suggest is that you create your own thread, and hopefully someone will be able to help you out there. Sorry I couldn't be of more help. Hello, I am trying to restore my ubuntu loader grub. Thanks you very much! Unfortunately I can't say definitively from your fdisk output. An other quostion too! I know that sda5 of yours is mine sda9. But how can I tell which is sda for me? Stupid question? It seems pretty scary though!
After installing ubuntu 9. It looks to me like you have chosen the wrong partition. If not, choose another partition :. Edit: Beaten by Talsemgeest :- As it should be.
Originally Posted by tikmikrik After installing ubuntu 9. I have read to, and also not to, change the boot order in the bios. Please advise! If this is going to complicate the current situation; then I can skip it.
XP PRO disk1 F: basic gb gb healthy active, primary partition gb online unallocated ——————————————————————— disk3 J removable 1. Bootloader Timeout: 30 seconds. Why would I do this? I tried easyBCD 1. I have XP SP3 on lappy with a hidden linux on two other partitions. I get error message, so tried installing in Win 7 and it worked.
My registry hive is corrupt and no matter what I do I get an error message that says Missing OS or unformattede active partition. If they are, so I even need the software, or should I just choose my boot drive from my bios? I have installed windows 7 on c: drive and XP on D: drive. Now the pc loads only the XP by default. D: drive. Please help. More information about windows trouble shooting boot problems, system performance and system slowly working and other problems etc..
Started with Xp on a second Partition of the same hard disk. It got well untill the install was finished. I erased the second partition again, but nothing chanced. I boot from the CD and get to dos. Can someone help me,please. Too bad. The system cannot find the file specified. Perhaps that will be the clue I need.
Yesterday the hard drive containing windows xp crashed, so I replaced it and had to re-install xp. Did I wipe out the win 7 loader on the C partition?
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